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From Lipstick to Loons: Jennifer Sullivan’s Journey into Birding

From Lipstick to Loons: Jennifer Sullivan’s Journey into Birding
March 4, 2025

Host Brian Lowery talks with journalist Jennifer Sullivan about the parallels between beauty and birding. As someone who has spent years writing about appearance and self-perception, Jenn discovered that watching birds offered a different kind of reflection—one that quiets the mind and expands our sense of place in the world. She and Brian discuss how stepping into nature can shift the way we see ourselves, and what happens when we stop looking in the mirror and start looking up.

Brian Lowery

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Brian Lowery is a Professor of Organizational Behavior and a social psychologist by training. He received his doctorate from UCLA in 2001 with a minor in statistical methods.

Jennifer Sullivan

Jennifer Sullivan

Journalist
Jennifer Sullivan

Jenn hosts the award-wining podcast Fat Mascara and is a weekly columnist for New York Magazine’s The Cut.

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